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marsel
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Date:
Tue, 16 Jan 2001 21:12:16 +0100
Subject:
[idm] toytronic stealing more
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to add more to the toytronic story. martin contacted me if he could license the track 'shift' from the service pack by cim, released on delsin in 1999, to be included on neurokinetic. that was ok with us, so we even did put up a contract etc.. no advance because it was all small labels, alternative music together, etc so simon walley sent a md with all the eight tracks, and when the 'neurokinetic' things were released, there seemed to be another track on the vinyl version!! so not only 'shift' on cd, but also the track 'recursive' on vinyl without the artist nor the label knowing about it! confusion at my side - no replies to emails, but in the meanwhile i knew he did reply to others people email, i had to call myself to recieve some copies, and the artist still has to recieve those.. & when i asked about the emails, "well, i wasn't online for some weeks", while i knew he was emailing with others. and furthermore also the releases of neurokinetic don't mention any license or credits to the original labels. the reason he gave about that vinyl: "oh didn't i ask? well, it's only 500 copies. and it doesn't sell that either" when i spoke with serge from clone/dub lately he told he didn't license anything as he had bad experiences with martin toytronic in the past. well, that 'just another' story - and i'm very wondering about the financial part later on. it's good to know that martin (gimmik) is working at sister ray in berwick street and that he seems to have an own way of doing these music things. marsel delsin/amsterdam At 13-1-01 +0100 13:09, you wrote:
quoted 7 lines Talking about that UK label Toytronic, following my posts on the great>Talking about that UK label Toytronic, following my posts on the great >Novel 23 I received a message from another UK label BENBECULA and i >thought you might want to read it. Before sharing this info i checked it >out and Roman Belousov/Novel 23 confirmed that it was a sad story... So >maybe Toytronic issue good-looking records but stealing songs is >definitely a bad attitude. It would be nice to read their version, and >in the meantime here's the message from :
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